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what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls.". martha: also the fact that this story gets so much more attention all across the networks and all across the media than benghazi and death than murder of our ambassador ever did another thing we'll look into and talk about. jehmu, andrea, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: turkey is threatening to step up its military response to border violence by syria. today is the second day of an air bombardment by syrian warplanes. here is the video. listen to this. [explosion] bill: that is a fierce line of weaponry there. leland vittert live on the ground there i
what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls."....
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we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president did address the issue yesterday, though he moved on quickly. should the president have been notified earlier? >> it sounds like as a general matter, what the congresswoman is saying is correct. there should be some definition of when an investigation needs to be brought up. but certainly if the fbi is looking to something in the white house you want want them alerting the white house. in the case of petraeus, nobody is furnishing any evidence that national security was compromised in any way. which raises the question, why was this so important in the first place and why is this worth ending the career of t
we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president...
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biography was sending harassing emails to another woman close to the cia director that prompted the fbi to investigate. also we know from that source that the investigation led to the discovery of e-mails between broadwell and petraeus that indicated the affair. more details are coming out about the timeline of events and when u.s. officials were notified of the circumstances of this investigation. the fbi informed the director of national intelligence james clapper about the investigation on tuesday night, election night. just as some polls were beginning to close. that director clapper as a friend, colleague, fellow officer and admirer urged petraeus to step down from his position. we know as well from that intelligence source that director clapper informed the white house about the investigation on wednesday and then on thursday the director and -- the questions now, of course, will focus on this second woman. who was she? what was the nature of her relationship with petraeus, and what more do officials know about the nature of those emails between broadwell and this other woman? may
biography was sending harassing emails to another woman close to the cia director that prompted the fbi to investigate. also we know from that source that the investigation led to the discovery of e-mails between broadwell and petraeus that indicated the affair. more details are coming out about the timeline of events and when u.s. officials were notified of the circumstances of this investigation. the fbi informed the director of national intelligence james clapper about the investigation on...
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he said he wasn't informed about petraeus, yet the fbi was investigating, he said he can't answer questions about whether he was informed because an investigation's going on. well, whether an investigation's going on doesn't keep him from admiding what he knows about whether he was informed. cya for obama. >> sean: look, there is a legal definition, you are both attorneys. there is a legal definition of lying under oath and there is a penalty for that. >> yeah. >> sean: but if somebody lies for political reasons to the american people, do they just lose -- >> perjury is perjury. high crimes are high crimes, misdemeanors are misdemeanors. we are not at that point, yet. >> sean: i agree. >> we are at the point of full disclosure, at this point. i am not the president. i don't aspire to the president, nor do you. but if i am the president, my inclination is to say, listen, i found out about this at 5:00. i directed the secretary of state to do this. i directed the secretary of defense to do that. >> sean: there is one problem. he flew to vegas. >> that is a problem. that's why we are not getti
he said he wasn't informed about petraeus, yet the fbi was investigating, he said he can't answer questions about whether he was informed because an investigation's going on. well, whether an investigation's going on doesn't keep him from admiding what he knows about whether he was informed. cya for obama. >> sean: look, there is a legal definition, you are both attorneys. there is a legal definition of lying under oath and there is a penalty for that. >> yeah. >> sean: but if...
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have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal about this case. he just wanted to quietly get it moving and he told a friend who went to a congressman from washington state where fredrick humphries is from who went to eric cantor and that's how it got to muller. >> okay, okay. >> he's being incorrectly called a whistle-blower. >> sari, he goes to a congress person, going outside of his agency, about a person who is being accuse -- somebody who is making accusations of being harassed by e-mail. is that important enough hearing from some other woman jealous of her, that tha
have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal...
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house subcommittee harshly critiques the exchange commission and the commodities future saying like the fbi and c.i.a. at their worst they simply didn't communicate allowing mf to fall through the cracks and spiral into bankruptcy. while places much of the blame for mf global's collapse squarely on the shoulders of the firm's ceo, jon corzine saying he took excessive risks while try to turn it into a major investment bank along the lines of goldman sachs the report suggests the possibility that the ftc should be combined a into one agency. the thought being this could have prevented the exorbitant risk and poor decisions mf global was making on the road to its downfall. joining me is bethany mclean who has writ been the crimes on wall street and around the country. bethany, is it is this the same old story all over again? >> it really is. it is amazing how often it plays out in such similar ways with different personalities. you saw the greed and even more hub rouse of jon corzine believing he could take this struggling firm and turn it into something approaching his old employer goldman sa
house subcommittee harshly critiques the exchange commission and the commodities future saying like the fbi and c.i.a. at their worst they simply didn't communicate allowing mf to fall through the cracks and spiral into bankruptcy. while places much of the blame for mf global's collapse squarely on the shoulders of the firm's ceo, jon corzine saying he took excessive risks while try to turn it into a major investment bank along the lines of goldman sachs the report suggests the possibility that...
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months before the fbi was brought on to the case. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. some lawmakers are demanding that general petraeus testify at some point about the deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi which he independently investigated. >>> incumbent senator scott brown of massachusetts who lost to elizabeth warren is calling on his republican party to move to the middle. >> we need to be a larger party. i'm a pro-choice moderate republican, there's a vanishing breed. you know that now. you've lost joe lieberman, richard lugar, kent conrad, me, olympia snowe. that group in the middle, it's vanishing and there are on both sides there are extremes as you all know kind of pushing back against the middle. i've always felt that that group in the middle is, quite frankly, the most powerful group because they're able to get to that 60-vote fleshhold and get things done so i'm hopeful we'll be a more tolerant, you know, open-minded party. >> there is speculation that brown could make another run for national if president obama names senator john kerry to his c
months before the fbi was brought on to the case. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. some lawmakers are demanding that general petraeus testify at some point about the deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi which he independently investigated. >>> incumbent senator scott brown of massachusetts who lost to elizabeth warren is calling on his republican party to move to the middle. >> we need to be a larger party. i'm a pro-choice moderate republican,...
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now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing their thing now. as for the other woman in the scandal though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing, jill kelly has now hired a top washington criminal defense lawyer. >> she also hired a publicist. the same one who represented. monica lewinsky. >> ah. >> abc's chief investigative correspondent, brian ross, set out to learn how she forged such a close relationship with the generals. >> reporter: jill kelly spent the day at her home in tampa not answering questions. in the background a television could be seen with news coverage of the peyton place like military sex scandal that focused attention on who she
now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing...
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set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a senior government official telling nbc news, the agent sent shirtless photos to jill kelley prior to the investigation. now, as the inquiries into allen and petraeus move forward, congress is reconvening on capitol hill about the original fbi investigation. >> the elements on in some ways of a hollywood movie, once this investigation, whenever david petraeus's name came up, they had an only giggs to tell the president. >> the defense secretary leon panetta telling reporters that congressional intelligence leaders should have been notified and much sooner. >> i believe that there's a responsibility to make sure that the i
set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a senior government official telling nbc news, the agent sent...
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an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of the petraeus s situation last week. rob, paula, back to you. >> all right, thank you, kiren. >>> we are learning much more about the tampa socialite at the center of this scandal. jill kelley has a special license plate, designating her as an honorary consul. title given by korean embassy. but is carries no official responsibilities. nor does it grant any immunities or even pay a sty penned. though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing just yet. kelley hired a,000 top criminal defense attorney and signed on with a publicist. the same one hired by, yeah, wait for it. monica lewinsky. interes
an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of...
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say they contain no evidence of a sexual relationship, something allen strongly denied. instead, the e-mails are described as friendly, perhaps flirty, but routine, mostly about meetings with ambassadors and dinner parties. in one note kelley tells the general she saw him on tv. he responds, "thanks, dear, you're a sweetheart." many e-mails were from kelley to general allen's wife. the two couples were good friends. >> until someone proves otherwise, i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> reporter: today the white house says the president obama still has faith in petraeus and allen. federal agents descended on the home of paula broadwell, gathering more material including a desktop computer, making sure she doesn't hold any classified information. and dave petraeus, once such a public hero, now forced into the shadows. while there is plenty of anger over petraeus' behavior with paula broadwell, the
a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say they contain no evidence of a sexual relationship, something allen strongly denied. instead, the e-mails are described as friendly, perhaps flirty, but routine, mostly about meetings with ambassadors and dinner parties. in one note kelley tells the general she saw him on tv. he responds, "thanks, dear, you're...
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remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus petraeus only resigned after national intelligence director james clapper told him to do so. joining me now, spencer ackerman senior writer for "wired" who writes for their national security blog the danger room and nbc's richard wolf. richard, i don't know i don't know much about waging war. i do know a little bit about living life. and these generals are writing absolutely crazy letters which i don't have time to read to a judge in a custody battle. >> right. >> a woman who has lost custody of her son, and in this country it is not easy for women to lose custody of children in these situations, th
remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus petraeus only resigned after national...
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but that's what we learned about the fbi's piece in this. >> is it our understanding that the fbi investigation into that side of it is the reason that this had to happen today and with some urgency it was going to become widely known? >> we haven't been able to confirm that direct link. we have spoken to law enforcement officials who have made a round about link into this. but no one has said that the reason he's stepping down is because there was an fbi investigation into this woman as he's announcing his extramarital affairs. the timing piece of it, while this fbi investigation why have been a factor, we haven't been told that it was thee factor that led him to make the announcement today. >> absent the investigation, had that not happened shs the fact of the affair, would that be dangerous enough to somebody in the job as being head of the cia that that would force a resignation because of the threat of blackmail or anything else? >> we did speak to law enforcement officials. they said that blackmail is a concern whenever you have this kind of conversation. whenever you have the cia directo
but that's what we learned about the fbi's piece in this. >> is it our understanding that the fbi investigation into that side of it is the reason that this had to happen today and with some urgency it was going to become widely known? >> we haven't been able to confirm that direct link. we have spoken to law enforcement officials who have made a round about link into this. but no one has said that the reason he's stepping down is because there was an fbi investigation into this...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eric cantor was told of
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what that would be.
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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we know the fbi is conducting an investigation into general petraeus biographer. this is a woman who had close access to general petraeus and the fbi is looking at the access that she had or was trying to have to his e-mail accounts including classified information. there's no indication that she got very far, that any classified information was divulged and no implication that general petraeus himself was under investigation for passing along any secrets. that's what we learned. >> is it our understanding that the fbi investigation into that side of it is the reason this had to happen today. it was going to become widely known if not publicly known? >> we haven't been able to confirm that direct link. we spoken to law enforcement officials who have made a round about link into this but no one has said that the reason he's stepping down is because there was an fbi investigation into this woman as he's announcing his extramarital affairs. the timing piece of it while this fbi investigation may have been a factor, we haven't been told it was the factor that led to t
we know the fbi is conducting an investigation into general petraeus biographer. this is a woman who had close access to general petraeus and the fbi is looking at the access that she had or was trying to have to his e-mail accounts including classified information. there's no indication that she got very far, that any classified information was divulged and no implication that general petraeus himself was under investigation for passing along any secrets. that's what we learned. >> is it...
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they answered our questions because this is ongoing fbi investigation. we will have no further comment. and tonight we learned that the army is investigating whether paula broadwell should be uniform code of military justice for having the affair with david petraeus. they are looking at whether she was, in fact, on -- had been called up as a reserve period of the affair. shepard? >> shepard: these are the days of our lives. jennifer griffin at the pentagon tonight. thank you. lawmakers said today they want to know whether general petraeus scandal investigation affected his testimony about the consulate attack in ben geaz. and they could soon get some answers from general petraeus himself. we'll get to that. plus, republic leaders saying they will block any attempt to make the u.s. ambassador susan rice the next secretary of state, if they can. their promise, the president's response and the rest of the day's news from the journalists of fox news on this wednesday fox report. uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express
they answered our questions because this is ongoing fbi investigation. we will have no further comment. and tonight we learned that the army is investigating whether paula broadwell should be uniform code of military justice for having the affair with david petraeus. they are looking at whether she was, in fact, on -- had been called up as a reserve period of the affair. shepard? >> shepard: these are the days of our lives. jennifer griffin at the pentagon tonight. thank you. lawmakers...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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summer that fbi agents had uncovered the affair that led to petraeus' downfall. it all started in early june when a florida woman named jill kelley pictures here with her husband, petraeus, and his wife, alerted agents to e-mails she described as e-mails. they told kelley, a petraeus family friend, to stop socializing with generals. those anonymous e-mails led investigators to paula broadwell and evidence of the affair. now some lawmakers are asking why the fbi didn't inform them or the white house sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. this is something that could have had an effect on national skur security. i think we should have been told. >> it seems this was going on for several months, and yet now it appear that is they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> adding to the headache and the controversy, petraeus was set to testify at a closed door hearing on the benghazi attack on thursday. with acting director michael morell now going in his pla
summer that fbi agents had uncovered the affair that led to petraeus' downfall. it all started in early june when a florida woman named jill kelley pictures here with her husband, petraeus, and his wife, alerted agents to e-mails she described as e-mails. they told kelley, a petraeus family friend, to stop socializing with generals. those anonymous e-mails led investigators to paula broadwell and evidence of the affair. now some lawmakers are asking why the fbi didn't inform them or the white...
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we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly suspicious, in its timing t. comes days after an election, a very important election. it comes days before he's set to testify before the house intelligence committee. and it really begs the question of what did the fbi know? and when did they know it? how long did they sit on that information? general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? what -- what is the real timing here, liz? that's the real question that i think going forward is so imperative that we get to the bottom of. >> also, the issue, as
we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly...